In an interview on Wednesday between the president of the Greater New York Black Lives Matter, Hawk Newsome, and the host Martha MacCallum, Fox News Channel. Newsome has warned the United States “If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it. All right? And I could be speaking figuratively. I could be speaking literally. It’s a matter of interpretation”.
The interview was held to discuss the direction of movement in the wake of George Floyd’s death and the subsequent protests in the country that have sparked destruction and violence.
In the interview, host Martha MacCallum told Newsome that he said violence is sometimes necessary in these situations. MacCallum then asked, “What exactly is it that you hope to achieve through violence?”.
Newsome responded, “Wow, it’s interesting that you would pose that question like that because this country is built upon violence. What was the American Revolution, what’s our diplomacy across the globe? We go in and we blow up countries and we replace their leaders with leaders who we like. So for any American to accuse us of being violent is extremely hypocritical.”
MacCallum stated why she posed that question to Newsome was because he has been saying on a bunch of interviews, and he keeps saying, “burn it down.” And “burn it down, it’s time.” that made her assume that Newsome is going to burn it down.
“Let’s be very real,” Newsome told the Fox News host Martha MacCallum. “Let’s observe the history of the 1960s when black people were rioting. We had the highest growth in wealth, in property ownership. Think about the last few weeks since we started protesting. There have been eight cops fired across the country.”
He said in past incidents involving fatal encounters with citizens, police officers were always allowed due process, but when people begin to destroy property, things change.
“What is this country rewarding? What behavior is it listening to? Obviously not marching. But when people get aggressive and they escalate their protests, cops get fired, Republican politicians talking about police reform,” he said.
“I don’t condone, nor do I condemn rioting,” Newsome replied. “But I’m just telling you what I observed.”
Since Floyd’s death on May 25, the conflict has continued across the country, with the protesters calling for police reforms.
But the protests have sometimes turned violent, with looting and burning.
The protesters have spray-painted the monuments and statues, including those of Confederate soldiers and the Founding Fathers with graffiti and then dragging them to the ground.
Later, Newsome insisted that the Black Lives Matter movement is about “saving lives” and its supporters should be “extolled” for maintaining the Second Amendment.
“Nobody’s talking about ambushing police officers. We’re talking about protecting lives,” he said. “There’s nothing more American than that. We talk about uplifting and upholding the Second Amendment. I think you should be applauding me, seeing how you guys are huge supporters of the Second Amendment.”
The interview set off after MacCallum read a quote from Martin Luther King Jr. and asked Newsome if he agreed with it.
“Let us be dissatisfied,” King told the Southern Christian Leadership Conference convention in 1967, “until that day when nobody will shout, ‘White power!’, when nobody will shout, ‘Black power!’, but everybody will talk about God’s power and human power.'”
“I love the Lord and my Lord and savior,” Newsome responded to MacCallum’s prompt. “Jesus Christ is the most famous black radical revolutionary in history. And he was treated just like Dr. King. He was arrested on occasion and he was also crucified or assassinated. This is what happens to black activists. We are killed by the government.”
As the interview concluded, Newsome told MacCallum, “I just want black liberation and black sovereignty, by any means necessary.”